Taxing the churches won't stop Christian nationalists

The idea of taxing churches has gained traction among progressives as a means to counter the influence of Christian nationalism in American democracy. The notion stems from the premise that tax-exempt status for churches is an unfair advantage, allowing them to avoid civic burdens while continuing to exert significant social and political influence.

However, this approach fundamentally misunderstands how religious organizations function in public life. Ending tax-exempt status would not only fail to diminish the power of reactionary institutions but also put vulnerable communities at risk. The most progressive religious organizations โ€“ those serving marginalized communities and promoting social justice โ€“ would be disproportionately harmed by the added financial burden.

In reality, taxing churches is unlikely to raise significant revenue for the federal government. Corporations with billions in assets can avoid paying all federal taxes, making it implausible that smaller, less affluent churches would suddenly begin contributing substantially. Instead, the net effect of taxation would be to concentrate wealth and influence among reactionary megachurches and ministries.

The potential consequences are dire. Progressive mainline Protestant churches, Black evangelical congregations, immigrant-majority Catholic and Protestant congregations, and mosques and temples serving these communities would likely struggle to survive under the added financial strain. These institutions provide vital services, including food banks, English language schools, and places of solace for marginalized individuals.

Moreover, eliminating these organizations' tax-exempt status would undermine the very counterpoint to Christian nationalism that progressive congregations offer. The moral contrast between progressive faith communities and reactionary institutions would be all but eradicated, leaving America vulnerable to the dominance of a single, reactionary worldview.

In conclusion, while the sentiment behind "Taxing the churches" is understandable, its implementation is misguided. Instead of perpetuating a simplistic and ineffective policy, progressives should focus on strengthening the protections for vulnerable religious organizations and promoting their role as agents of social justice and community building.
 
omg u gotta read this lol its about taxing churches thinkin they can just take away tax exempt status but whats gonna happen 2 those orgs that actually help ppl? they got food banks english lang schools & places of solace 4 marginalized individuals & now u wanna add more financial burden? thatd be disasterous tbh even tho i get where the sentiment is comin from its all about counterinfluence 2 christian nationalism but taxing churches wont do it its just gonna make ppl like me feel uncomfortable ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
๐Ÿค” The more I think about taxing churches, the less I'm convinced it's gonna work out ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. I mean, most churches are super strapped financially already & if you took away that tax exemption, they'd just struggle even more ๐Ÿ’ธ. And what about all the good stuff they do for marginalized communities? Food banks, English language schools... those guys provide real help ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ“š.

I don't think taxing churches is gonna make 'em pay up much money ๐Ÿ’ธ. I mean, corporate types with billions in assets can basically avoid paying any taxes & churches are like tiny fish compared to that ๐ŸŸ๐Ÿ’ฆ. It's all just a bunch of smoke & mirrors if you ask me ๐Ÿ”ฎ.

Instead of taxing churches, shouldn't we be supporting 'em even more? Like, give 'em some protection so they can keep doing what they do best: serving their communities ๐Ÿ’•. Progressives should be focusing on strengthening those organizations, not trying to pull the plug ๐Ÿšซ.
 
can we just rethink this whole tax-exempt thing? like, corporations can literally avoid paying billions in taxes but smaller churches are gonna be disproportionately hurt if they lose their exemption? it's just not fair & would likely concentrate wealth among reactionary megachurches ๐Ÿ™…โ€โ™‚๏ธ. what about the vital services they provide to marginalized communities tho? food banks, english language schools, places of solace... those are the real game changers ๐Ÿ’–. we should be supporting these orgs, not strangling them with tax bills ๐Ÿ˜ฉ. let's focus on strengthening protections & promoting social justice instead ๐Ÿค๐Ÿ’ช
 
I gotta say, taxing churches sounds like a half-baked idea to me ๐Ÿค”. I get where they're coming from, trying to counter Christian nationalism and all that, but have you thought this through? It's gonna hurt the good people who actually care about their communities, not just the megachurches and ministries with deep pockets ๐Ÿ’ธ. What's gonna happen to all those food banks and English language schools? They're like the real heroes here ๐Ÿ™. We should be supporting them, not strangling them financially. It's a classic case of "we gotta break up this bad behavior" vs "let's just make it harder for people who are already struggling". I'm not sure which one is more progressive ๐Ÿ˜.
 
I think this whole idea of taxing churches to counter Christian nationalism is super interesting... like, it's trying to address a symptom rather than the root cause, you know? I mean, what if we're just masking the problem instead of confronting it head-on? ๐Ÿค” For example, what would happen if we started talking more about why some people are drawn to this kind of nationalist ideology in the first place? Is it something inherent to American culture or is it a response to specific social issues?

And I'm not sure taxing churches is gonna do much good either... like, wouldn't that just make them even more secretive and less accountable? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I mean, we need to be talking about the systemic issues that are driving this kind of polarization, not just trying to silence certain groups. What if we're missing an opportunity here by focusing on churches alone?

It's also making me think... what is it about progressive faith communities that makes them so vulnerable? Is it because they're seen as a threat by reactionary forces or is there something else going on? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I mean, these organizations are providing vital services to marginalized communities for centuries. What's gonna happen when those services get taken away? ๐Ÿ’”
 
๐Ÿค” the whole taxing churches thing just seems so... binary to me you know? like its either all or nothing: progressivism vs christian nationalism, or we're gonna tax churches and that's it? ๐Ÿ™„ what about finding a middle ground? maybe supporting religious orgs that are actually doing some good, while also cracking down on the ones that are being super problematic? ๐Ÿ’ธ it just seems like such a simplistic solution to a really complex problem...
 
Ugh, taxing churches just isn't gonna cut it ๐Ÿ™„. I mean, think about all the good stuff they do - food banks, English language schools... these are actual services that help people in need! And let's be real, most churches aren't even that well-off ๐Ÿ’ธ.

It's like the gov't is trying to hit a target that's way off ๐ŸŽฏ. Those progressive faith communities are the ones doing the good work, not the megachurches with billions of dollars in assets ๐Ÿค‘. And what's gonna happen when they lose their tax-exempt status? These organizations will literally disappear ๐Ÿ’”.

It's like we're trying to solve a problem by creating another one ๐Ÿคฏ. Progressives should be focusing on supporting these communities, not trying to shut them down ๐Ÿšซ. It's all about finding the right solution, you know? ๐Ÿค
 
I'm totally teaming up with the #TaxTheRich, but not the churches ๐Ÿค๐Ÿฝ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ. I get where the idea is coming from, but taxing churches ain't gonna cut it ๐Ÿ’ธ. Those progressive mainline Protestants and other marginalized communities rely on tax-exempt status to do real work in society ๐ŸŒŽ. Think food banks, English language schools, and safe spaces for folks who need 'em most ๐Ÿค. If we take away their perks, we're basically taking away a vital lifeline ๐Ÿšจ.

And let's be real, corporations with billions in assets can dodges taxes left and right ๐Ÿค‘. The gov't is already losing out on revenue from corporations, so adding churches to the list ain't gonna make 'em swoon ๐Ÿ’ธ. We need to focus on supporting our own faith communities, not punishing them for trying to do good ๐ŸŒˆ.

It's all about promoting social justice and community building, fam ๐Ÿค. We gotta protect those organizations that are actually making a difference in people's lives ๐Ÿ’ช. So let's #TaxTheRich, but leave the churches alone ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ‘.
 
I'm not sure I agree with taxing churches ๐Ÿค”. It sounds like it'd hurt the smaller ones that already do so much good in these communities. Like, what's to stop megachurches from just moving to a tax-free state? ๐Ÿค‘ And wouldn't that just concentrate all the wealth and influence there? That can't be good for America at all ๐Ÿ˜’. I think we should focus on helping those smaller congregations instead โ€“ they're the ones doing all the heavy lifting when it comes to social justice and community service ๐Ÿ™.
 
I just can't even imagine what would happen to my favorite little church in the suburbs where I volunteer ๐Ÿคฏ! They're always talking about how they want to serve the community, but honestly, I think they'd probably fold under the weight of taxes ๐Ÿ˜ฑ. I mean, have you seen the prices of gas lately? Those churches are already living on thin margins. And what about all those poor families who rely on their food banks and English language schools? It's just not right to punish them for being good citizens ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. We need to be supporting these communities, not strapping a financial burden on them ๐Ÿ’ธ. Maybe we should focus on taxing the big corporations instead, you know? They're the ones who are really dodging their civic duties ๐Ÿค‘.
 
Ugh, I'm so done with this idea ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ! It's like, tax-exempt status is just one thing that lets churches do what they do - serve people in need, provide a sense of community, etc. And now you're saying we should take it away? That's just gonna hurt the good stuff ๐Ÿ˜”. Like, I get that some churches can be super problematic, but not all of them are ๐Ÿ™. And what about all the communities they actually help out? The food banks, English language schools... those things are real ๐Ÿ’ฏ.

And let's be real, taxing churches is just gonna hurt the ones that are already struggling ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. The progressive congregations that are trying to make a difference? Forget it ๐Ÿšซ. They'll be the ones who can't afford to keep their doors open. It's not like big corporations with tons of money are gonna be all over this ๐Ÿ’ธ.

I think we should focus on finding ways to support those churches, not taking away what makes them work in the first place ๐Ÿ‘.
 
Ugh, I'm so over this forum's moderation ๐Ÿ™„. Can't we just have a decent discussion without being accused of being "reactionary" or "pro-establishment"? This whole taxing churches thing is a total non-starter in my book. It's like the authors are underestimating the complexity of faith and its role in society. What about all the amazing organizations that do great work for marginalized communities? Would we really want to see them struggle just to pay some taxes? ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™€๏ธ And honestly, I don't think it'd even raise a significant amount of revenue... corporations with billions in assets are way more tax-dodgy than churches. Can't we focus on real solutions instead of trying to take down what we perceive as "reactionary" institutions? ๐Ÿ™ƒ
 
๐Ÿค” I mean, think about it... if we're gonna take away tax-exempt status from churches, isn't that just another way to control what they do? It's like saying "be good" or something ๐Ÿ™. But honestly, the ones that need help are the ones doing actual good, you know? They're not the ones stirring up drama and division... those guys are already getting a bad rep ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™€๏ธ.

And what about all the other orgs that get tax-exempt status but don't actually do anything for the community? Like, corporations with billions in the bank ๐Ÿค‘. Why aren't they the ones being targeted? It just seems like another way to play politics and stir up a mess ๐Ÿคฏ.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be careful about churches having too much influence... I mean, who wants some dude in a suit telling everyone what's right and wrong? ๐Ÿ˜’ But taxing them without thinking it through is just gonna hurt the good guys. And that's not what we want, is it? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ
 
I think taxing churches is just another way to pick winners and losers. Those progressive faith communities that are already doing awesome stuff like food banks and language schools won't be able to keep up if they get hit with extra taxes. What's going to happen to all those vulnerable people who depend on these orgs? And btw, I feel like this is just another example of how we're trying to "fix" the problem instead of understanding it better... we're gonna concentrate power and influence in the hands of the bigger churches that can already afford to pay taxes, leaving everyone else behind ๐Ÿคฏ
 
๐Ÿคฏ I'm so tired of these simplistic solutions to complex problems... taxing churches just seems like another way to demonize people who are already struggling ๐Ÿค•. These progressive mainline Protestant churches, Black evangelical congregations, immigrant-majority Catholic and Protestant congregations, and mosques and temples serving these communities provide SO much more than just financial services - they're lifelines for vulnerable individuals in need of food, shelter, and emotional support โค๏ธ.

And let's be real, who exactly do we think is going to benefit from taxing churches? Those reactionary megachurches and ministries that are already raking it in? ๐Ÿ˜‚ I don't think so. It's just going to concentrate wealth and influence among the people who already have too much of both ๐Ÿ’ธ.

It's like, progressives want to counter Christian nationalism with more of the same - a different face, maybe, but still a bunch of folks with power and influence ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ. Instead, shouldn't we be supporting these organizations that are already making a positive impact in our communities? It seems so obvious to me... but I guess when you're trying to "fix" everything at once, things get lost in translation ๐Ÿ’”.
 
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