Rolling Stones Catalog Owner on Rock Doc Copyright Win: Fair Use Isn’t a ‘Cloak for Infringing Acts’

Judge Rejects 'Fair Use' Defense in Classic Rock Documentary Case, Ruling Against Unauthorized Music Use.

A New York federal judge has upheld a lawsuit against filmmaker Robert Carruthers and his company Coda Publishing, ruling that their use of unauthorized music in classic rock documentaries constitutes copyright infringement. The decision provides clarity on the limits of "fair use," a concept that allows for the use of copyrighted material without permission in certain circumstances.

The case dates back to 2020, when ABKCO, which owns songs from The Rolling Stones' catalog, and Universal Music Group (UMG) alleged that Carruthers' documentaries infringed on their rights to valuable music, including chart-toppers like "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," "Dancing Queen" and "Crocodile Rock." A federal judge agreed with the argument, ruling that simply juxtaposing critical commentary next to reproduced videos does not constitute fair use.

The decision highlights the challenges posed by artificial intelligence (AI) in copyright law. With AI-powered chatbots like Claude being trained on existing works without permission, technology developers have argued that "transformative" AI makes it fair use for them to train models without paying for licenses. However, the judge's ruling suggests that such claims are not supported.

ABKCO and UMG are seeking financial damages from Carruthers, with the possibility of enhanced damages due to willful infringement. The outcome could have significant implications for the music industry and AI developers alike, as it underscores the importance of respecting copyright laws.

The case marks a turning point in the ongoing debate over fair use and its limits. As technology continues to evolve, it is likely that courts will be called upon to resolve similar disputes, providing clarity on what constitutes fair use and when unauthorized use may not be justified.
 
🤔 So this ruling makes total sense, right? I mean, if you wanna make a documentary about classic rock, shouldn't you pay the artists for their music? 🎵 It's not like they're just gonna let anyone slap some of The Rolling Stones' hits in there without asking. And now with AI coming into play, it's even more crucial to respect copyright laws. I feel like this is a wake-up call for tech devs and creators who wanna use public domain works or whatever. 💡 They gotta figure out what's fair and what's not before they get hit with some major fines. This ruling sets the bar pretty high, but maybe it'll encourage more people to get licenses and pay up. 🤑
 
🎵 this ruling's got me thinking, like how far can you push the boundaries of 'fair use' before it just gets old? I mean, if AI-powered chatbots are getting trained on songs without permission, where do we draw the line? 🤖 the judge's ruling says that transformative use isn't always enough to justify copyright infringement. but what about when you're trying to study or critique the original work? is that still 'fair' use? 📚 it's a gray area for sure, and I think this case highlights just how tricky it can get when technology and law intersect. 💻
 
🤔 I'm thinking, we gotta respect the artists and creators' work, you know? This case is like a big reminder that just because something's old doesn't mean it's public domain or free to use without permission. 🎵 The AI thing is interesting, but if it's just gonna train models on existing works without paying up, then that's just copyright infringement in disguise... 😬
 
Ugh, this ruling is like, soooo harsh 🤕... I get where the music industry needs protection, but come on, using old songs in documentaries isn't like bootlegging concerts or anything 😩. And AI? Like, it's already super cool, can't we just let devs train models without getting sued over it? 🤖 It's all about finding that balance between respecting creators and not stifling innovation... I guess this ruling is a step in the right direction to clarify things 💡, but I still think "fair use" should be, like, more chill 😎.
 
omg u wont beleive whats happnin 2 filmmaker robert carruthers & his co coda publishing!!! 🤯 they were tryin 2 get away wit using clasik rock songs in documentaries without payin nuthin 2 the rights holders abkco & umg! 🤑 but now they gotta pay up! 💸 the judge said their "fair use" defense didnt cut it bc they jus used critical commentary next 2 reproduced vids. that's not fair lol! 😂 AI is a whole nother ball game tho... devs r tryin 2 say its fair use 4 them 2 train models on existing works w/o permisshun 🤖 but the judge said otherwise. 💡 now we just gotta wait & c how this all plays out... 👀
 
I'm low-key disappointed about this ruling 🤔. I mean, can't we just appreciate the music without worrying about copyright laws all the time? It's like AI is making it harder for us to enjoy classic rock docs 🎸. But at the same time, I get why Carruthers and his team have to be careful – they're not trying to make a profit off people's work or anything 😕. Still, it's weird that just adding some commentary next to old videos isn't enough to make it "fair use" 🤷‍♀️. Guess we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out in the courts... ⚖️
 
Ugh, this is just great. Another filmmaker getting slammed for using some old songs in their documentary without permission 🤑. I mean, come on, can't they just pay the royalties like everyone else? It's not like it's a big deal to use some classic rock tunes next to some analysis or whatever. And now we've got AI-powered chatbots being used to train models on copyrighted material without permission too... what's next? 🤖 AI-generated music becoming the new normal? 😒
 
can u believe this is 2025 already? anyway, i'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole copyright thing with AI... i mean, i get that music companies wanna protect their work, but come on! shouldn't we have more chill ways of teaching models what's cool and not? like, can't we just give them a playlist or something 🎶🤷‍♂️
 
the music industry's grip on classic rock docs is getting tighter 🎵🚫 just think about all the documentaries that could've been made without the copyright holders breathing down their necks... maybe it's time to start exploring other types of music or even public domain stuff 🤔 what's next, AI devs gonna try to argue that? AI-generated content being 'transformative' is a stretch 📈
 
This ruling better believe is gonna have huge implications for artists and filmmakers 🤯! I mean, think about all the classic rock documentaries out there using those iconic songs without permission - it's like they're just getting away with it, you know? But the thing is, AI technology is already changing the game. Those chatbots are being trained on existing works left and right, and nobody's really thinking about what that means for copyright law 🤖. So yeah, this ruling might be a wake-up call for some people, but I'm more concerned about where all this tech is gonna lead next... it's wild times we're living in 🌐
 
🎵💔 this ruling makes me kinda sad for artists who put their heart & soul into creating music. I mean, think about it - those songs are like a part of our culture now, you know? & they're being used in docs without permission... 🤷‍♂️ that's just not fair. but at the same time, i can see why courts gotta step in to protect people's intellectual property rights. AI is a wild card here - it's like, on one hand, devs are trying to make these chatbots learn from existing works without breaking copyright law... but on the other hand, some of those existing works were created like, decades ago & the owners aren't making it easy for new artists to use 'em in their own work. 🤔 so maybe we just need to find a better balance here - one where devs can still learn from old music without getting sued into oblivion... 🎶
 
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