Here's why Labour is struggling to deliver: the British state is immense, but pull the levers and nothing happens | Larry Elliott

Britain's government has long boasted about its election wins, promising to roll up their sleeves and make changes. Yet, time and again, ministers are shocked to find that nothing happens. The reason for this lies not in the politicians themselves, but in the size and inefficiency of the British state.

At both local and central levels, the capacity for government intervention has been eroded over the years. Council services have been outsourced, leaving professional expertise in short supply. What's left to do is alleviate the consequences of failure, which are becoming increasingly pressing.

The problem runs deeper than this. A decades-long aversion to state intervention has taken root, driven by the misguided idea that governments should get out of the way of the private sector. Instead of picking winners and losers, Britain has adopted a cult-like devotion to market forces. This mindset is not unique to Britain; other countries have also been wary of government interference.

However, this approach may be misguided. East Asian nations like South Korea and China have shown that conscious decision-making can lead to success. These countries identified key sectors for growth, invested heavily in them, and forced through change when necessary. The UK has had similar opportunities, but has failed to seize them.

China's dominance in the solar panel market is a notable example of this. By identifying clean energy as a global growth opportunity and investing heavily in it, Beijing was able to create a sector that would have been impossible without government support. Meanwhile, Britain's talk about a new industrial strategy built around a net-zero future has so far yielded little concrete action.

Even the US, supposed bastion of free market ideology, has found ways to deliver an industrial strategy through targeted investment and interventionism. The federal government pumps millions into universities and defence companies, creating links between the state and industry that drive growth.

Britain's problem is not a lack of ideas or resources; it's a lack of willpower and a failure to bring together disparate parts of government to achieve common goals. The 1945 Labour government was able to make significant changes because it inherited a fully functioning planned economy, which allowed it to direct labour effectively towards key industries.

In the 1960s, Britain flirted with indicative planning – setting broad targets and working out how to achieve them through cooperation with private companies and trade unions. This approach showed promise, but ultimately failed. The lesson is that the state needs to be more effective at driving growth and change, rather than just reacting to market forces.

To do this, the British state needs a fundamental overhaul. The power of the Treasury must be broken by creating alternative economic power bases within Whitehall. A standalone ministry with real clout is needed, or a revamped National Economic Development Council that can identify and nurture potential growth sectors.

Investment is crucial, but it will only work if the state is willing to experiment and accept failure as part of the process. Other countries have shown the benefits of a pragmatic approach, and Britain needs to follow suit.

Failure to reform the state will only entrench public cynicism about politics. Voters will tune out when faced with empty promises, and their experience of everyday life – from potholed roads to inadequate healthcare – will become increasingly negative.

Britain's government must wake up to its own limitations and stop relying on hot air. It needs a bold new approach that harnesses the power of the state to drive growth and change, rather than just reacting to market forces. Anything less risks leaving Britain in the dust as other countries continue to thrive.
 
Britain's government is all about words over actions 🗣️. They keep promising to make changes but nothing ever comes out of it. The real problem lies not with the politicians, but with the size and inefficiency of the state 🤯. It's like they think the private sector can solve everything on its own 💸.

I mean, look at countries like South Korea and China - they didn't just sit back and watch as the market took over 🌟. They actively invested in certain sectors and forced change when needed 🔄. And did you know that even the US is doing industrial strategy through targeted investment? 🤔

Britain's problem isn't a lack of ideas or resources, it's a lack of willpower 💪. The state needs to be more proactive, not just reactive 🕰️. They need to create an alternative economic power base within Whitehall 🔩 and stop relying on the Treasury alone.

It's like they're stuck in a rut and can't even get out 🚫. The public is already skeptical, and if nothing changes, people will tune out 🗣️. Britain needs a bold new approach that harnesses state power to drive growth and change 💥. Anything less will leave them behind 😬.
 
😕 I'm getting so frustrated with our government's lack of action. They keep promising to fix things but nothing ever changes 🤷‍♂️. It's like they're waiting for something to magically happen instead of actually doing stuff 💸. We need a total overhaul of the way they work, not just some tweaks here and there 🔄. It's time for them to stop being so scared of government intervention and start taking control 💪. We can learn from other countries that have done it successfully, like South Korea and China 🌏. They're showing us that with a bit of planning and investment, we can achieve great things 🚀. Come on, UK, let's get our act together! 👊
 
lol britain is like stuck in neutral lol its all about the gov't trying 2 make changes but nothing actually happens 🤦‍♂️ bc of how inefficient it is 🚮 and they keep thinkin market forces r the ansr 👀 meanwhile other countries r over here like china & south korea investing big time in clean energy & getting results 💸 its all about gov't intervention tho not just lettin the private sector do evrything 🤝 britain needs 2 wake up & stop bein so cynical 🙄 & have a bold new approach 2 drive growth & change 👊 or else theyll b left behind 🚫
 
I'm so frustrated with this gov 🤯. They keep talking about making changes but nothing ever happens. It's all about outsourcing and leaving it up to the private sector which isn't working 🚫. We need a more proactive approach, like those East Asian countries have done. China is killing it in solar energy because they invested heavily and forced change when needed 💡.

Meanwhile, Britain is just stuck on talk about a net-zero future but no concrete action 🤷‍♂️. Even the US can do an industrial strategy through targeted investment and interventionism 🤑. What's stopping us? It's not about lack of ideas or resources, it's about willpower and cooperation between different parts of gov 👊.

We need to overhaul the state and give a standalone economic power base within Whitehall some real clout 💪. Or maybe a revamped National Economic Development Council that can identify and nurture growth sectors 📈. Anything less is just empty promises and public cynicism 😒. Britain needs a bold new approach, not just hot air 💨.
 
🚨 the thing is, theyre not even tryin 🤔 its like they think magic will happen if they just wait long enough, meanwhile china and south korea are out here doin 💸 and investing in industries that matter 💡 britains got the brains but not the brawn 👊
 
I think the UK's problem lies in its inability to strike a balance between the private sector and the public interest 🤔. The country's history of indicative planning showed promise, but ultimately failed due to bureaucratic red tape and a lack of coordination 💼. To break this cycle, the government needs to empower a new economic power base within Whitehall, one that can drive growth and innovation without being beholden to special interests 🚀. It's time for the UK to take a more pragmatic approach to economic development, one that acknowledges the limitations of market forces alone 🔓.
 
🤔 I think its all about changing mindset, you know? We've been so focused on getting out of the way of the private sector that we forgot that governments can actually drive growth and change too 🚀. It's not just about throwing money at problems, but also about being proactive and taking calculated risks 💸. I mean, look at those East Asian nations, they're like a whole different ball game 🤯. They know how to identify key sectors for growth and push through changes when needed 💪. We need to do the same in Britain, but instead of just talking about it, we need to actually put our money where our mouth is 💸. A standalone ministry with real clout or a revamped National Economic Development Council would be a great start 📈. And let's not forget investment is key, but it has to be backed up by some serious experimentation and a willingness to accept failure as part of the process 🔥. Anything less just feels like empty promises 😐.
 
🤔 The thing is, they keep saying we need more private sector involvement but what about when it all goes wrong? We're still dealing with a lot of council cuts and outsourcing, which is basically just passing the buck. And let's be real, even in other countries like South Korea and China, government intervention isn't always perfect. But at least they've tried something different. We're stuck on this 'free market' dogma that's not working for us 🚫💸
 
man I'm so sick of hearing about how the british government is all like "oh we want to make changes" but then nothing actually happens it's like they're stuck in this rut and can't get out 😩 and yeah I get that the size and inefficiency of the state is a problem, but I think part of the issue is that they're too afraid to take control and make some real decisions 🤑 those east asian countries are doing it right, investing heavily in certain sectors and forcing change through when necessary 🌟 China's solar panel thing is a great example of this, why can't we do something similar here? 🤔 it's not about being against the private sector, it's about having a balanced approach where the state knows how to drive growth and change 💪
 
I don't get why the UK government is still stuck on this "less state intervention" thingy 🤔. They're basically saying "we'll let the private sector sort everything out"... meanwhile, look at China and South Korea, they're like, totally crushing it with some serious state-led initiatives 💸. And what's up with this 'net-zero future' talk? Sounds like a bunch of empty promises to me 😒. The US is doing just fine with their targeted investments and whatnot... why can't the UK be more like that? 🤷‍♂️ It's not about having no ideas, it's about actually following through on them 💪. They need to rethink their whole approach and stop being so timid 👎.
 
Britain's government is all talk no action 🤔📊 it's like they think magic will make everything better, but deep down they know they're out of touch with reality 💸. They keep saying they want to support key industries and create jobs, but in reality, they're just too scared to take risks or make tough decisions 👀. The problem is, they've been relying on market forces for so long that they've forgotten how to drive growth through state intervention 🚫. It's time for a change, Britain needs a government that's willing to experiment and accept failure as part of the process 💪. Anything less and we'll be stuck in neutral forever 😞
 
🚨 UK is like, super slow to adapt to anything 🙄. They keep talking about making changes but nothing actually happens. The real issue isn't the politicians, it's how inefficient and bloated the government is 👀. They outsource services left and right and then just kinda deals with the consequences later on. Meanwhile, countries like China and South Korea are over here crushing it with their industrial strategies 💥. And don't even get me started on the US, they're all about investing in universities and defense companies to drive growth 🤑. The UK needs a serious overhaul, like creating a new economic power base within Whitehall or something 🔓. Anything less is just gonna make people lose faith in politics 😒.
 
🤦‍♂️ I'm so late to this thread, but I gotta say, it's been stuck on my mind since I read this article. The UK's government is all about talk and not enough action, imo. They keep promising to make changes, but when it comes down to it, they can't seem to get anything done. It's like they're stuck in a rut.

I think the problem is that they've gotten too caught up in the whole "market forces" thing. I mean, come on, China and South Korea are doing just fine with their government-backed plans for growth. Why can't we do the same? 🤷‍♂️

And don't even get me started on how much investment is needed to make a difference. It's not like they're going to magically fix everything with a few handouts and subsidies. They need to be bold, take risks, and accept some failure along the way.

I'm not sure what it would take for them to wake up and smell the coffee, but something needs to change ASAP. The public is getting fed up with all this empty promise stuff, and I don't blame 'em. It's time for a fresh approach that harnesses the power of the state to drive growth and change. 💪
 
🤔 I feel like we've been here before... remember when Labour promised to make a real difference after the '99 general election? Never really got off the ground, did it? 😐 It's all about the state vs private sector, right? Like, we need more of both, not just one or the other. I mean, what's wrong with a bit of planning and direction? 🤷‍♂️ It's like they're afraid to take risks and try something new... China does it, why can't us? 🇰🇷
 
I'm so over this government's empty promises 🙄. They keep saying they're gonna make changes but nothing ever happens. The problem is the state is too slow and inefficient 🕰️. They've outsourced too much and now we're left with inadequate services 🚮. It's not the politicians' fault, it's the system 🤔.

We need a radical overhaul of the way the government works 💥. A separate economic ministry or a revamped National Economic Development Council is needed to drive growth and change 📈. And let's be real, we can't just sit back and rely on market forces 🤷‍♀️. Look at China and South Korea, they're killing it with conscious decision-making 😎.

We need the government to experiment and take risks, even if it means failing sometimes 🤞. The current approach is just a bunch of hot air 💨. If we don't reform the state, public cynicism will set in and voters will tune out 👋. Britain needs a bold new approach to stay ahead of the game 🔥. Anything less is just playing catch-up 🏃‍♂️.
 
I feel like we're stuck in a never-ending cycle here 🔄. The UK gov's all talk, no action 😐. They keep promising to make changes, but nothing ever seems to happen. It's like they think the magic happens on its own, without any actual effort 💫. Meanwhile, countries like South Korea and China are over there making real progress, and we're just sitting around twiddling our thumbs 🙄.

I mean, what's the harm in a bit of state intervention? We're not talking about socialism or communism here 🚫. Just a simple case of government recognizing its limitations and taking control 💪. It's time for them to wake up and stop relying on market forces to solve everything 🔔. We need some real leadership, not just empty promises 🗣️.

I'm so tired of hearing about "free markets" and "limited government intervention" 🤯. Who made that up? 😂 It's like they think the private sector is a magical genie that will grant all our wishes 💫. Newsflash: it doesn't work that way 🔮. We need some real pragmatism here, not just a bunch of ideology 💭.

It's time for the UK gov to get its act together and stop pretending we're all equal 💪. Let's face it, they have the resources and the expertise. Now let's see them put their money where their mouth is 💸. We need some real change, not just a bunch of words on a piece of paper 📝.
 
the problem with britain's government is not that they're all bad ppl, its more like theyre not usin thier full potential lol 🤷‍♀️🇬🇧 thinkin that just cuz theres a lot of inefficiency in the state, doesnt mean u cannt make changes. its all about bein strategic and takin calculated risks 💸📈 east asian countries like south korea and china r showin us how it's done 👍 theyve got this mindset that u need to make conscious decisions and invest in things thats gonna drive growth and change. britain needs to do the same 🔄💪
 
😔 it's so sad to see britain struggling with its own limitations 🤕 their government is all talk and no action 💬 it's like they're stuck in a rut and can't find a way out 🔄 i feel like they need a wake-up call, a bold new approach that puts the state at the forefront of growth and change 💪 not just reacting to market forces, but taking control of their own destiny 🌎 it's not too late for them to learn from other countries like china and south korea who have shown that conscious decision-making can lead to success 🤝 we just need to see some real action and investment in key sectors 💸
 
I'm so confused about this whole thing... like, I get that the UK government is trying to make changes but it feels like they're stuck 🤔. I mean, China and South Korea are doing something right with their industrial strategies, investing heavily in clean energy and stuff... why can't we do that? 🌞

I was talking to my mate the other day and he's from Manchester, he said that council services have been really cut back there, it's like they're not getting enough money 🤑. I don't get how that affects the whole country, can someone explain it to me in simple terms...? 🤷‍♀️

I love the idea of a standalone ministry with real power, that would be so cool 💪! But at the same time, isn't that just more bureaucracy? 😒
 
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